Ferrite Resonance

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Zanzal posted this 25 December 2017

In attempting to trace down the phenomena which Akula devices could exploit to achieve overunity I have come across the concept of ferrite resonance. A similar term ferroresonance has also been associated with Akula devices, but I am not sure that is applicable as it seems to me that Akula devices do not meet the requirements needed for ferroresonance. Ferrite resonance to the best of my understanding has to do with the natural resonant frequency of the core material. It is not clear though how to determine the core materials natural resonant frequency.

Has anyone explored this concept in detail and willing to share insight? Can provide a how to guide to determine the transformer core resonant frequency (independent of any windings)?

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Vasile posted this 25 December 2017

Very good question Zanzal. I experimented for a long period of time with electrical resonance. There are numerous types of electrical resonance but the one I feel you are looking for(natural resonance of a material) is the most interesting because it is not afected by L or C of the material, but simply by metric components(basicly the lenght of the material).

The best resource I can give u right now in this direction is Nokola Tesla patent No. 649,621.

By way of illustration, if the rate at which the current traverses the circuit including the coil be 185 000 miles/s then a frequency of 925 cycles/s would mantain 925 stationary moves in a circuit 185 000 miles long and each wave would be 200 miles in lenght...

From what I quoted above u should understand that the material has full wave resonance conditions build up in it, but please do read the patent enterily because u will find that he uses quarter wave resonance conditions as he finds them to be ''...the best conditions for resonance...''

 

P.S.: This is a link to the patent mentioned above

http://www.mcnikolatesla.hr/wp-content/uploads/bsk-pdf-manager/81_00649621.PDF

Chris posted this 25 December 2017

Hey Guys, Some good questions/points raised.

Please keep in mind, and this is more important than anything, that not all Akula's devices had a Ferrite Core, in fact majority were Air Core or even Copper core!

One example of No Core:

 

Another:

 

and another:

 

There is also many others. So, is the secret to Akulas devices Ferrite resonance, or ferroresonance?

EDIT: You are right though, resonance is important. We saw it in The Mr Preva Experiment, the Currents had to be 180 degrees out of phase for max efficiency.

   Chris

Zanzal posted this 25 December 2017

@Chris, you make a good point about Akula. But for me the question at hand isn't about whether my current line of research is relevant to Akula or my assertion that ferrite resonance is in fact the source of the energy. That's a debatable claim that one shouldn't take too seriously at this stage.

I tried to use terms that I felt would line up with other researchers work, but when I use the term "Ferrite resonance" I am talking about the natural resonance of the core material. If the core material is air it may still be relevant to Akula although no ferrite is involved. I apologize for not taking the time to explain my reasoning here, its mostly intuition and I can't really explain it. If I am able to put anything coherent together I will share further. Consider some of the strange claims that have been made such as those regarding core's shattering when operating at overunity or like Wistiti said one of his devices "stopped being overunity after some time."

@Vasile, that sounds interesting. The so the natural resonance can be determined by propagation of a wave across the core material. The closer to resonance frequency the more likely the wave will pass through the material unhindered? I've ordered some piezo buzzers to try and reproduce a youtube video I found on it. I wasn't sure if that was actually a good way to test that or not. 

 

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Zanzal posted this 25 December 2017

Alright so an idea just came to me. What if I cross reference electrical resonance of the transformer and compare to the acoustic resonance. What happens when I bring the electrical resonance into phase with the acoustic resonance? (i.e. adjust the electrical resonance into the same frequency or a fundamental of the acoustic.) Shattered core is my bet, but it should be interesting to find out.

Further experiment.. Determine if there is a "magnetic" resonance for the core unrelated to electrical and acoustic. The magnetic resonance might be the frequency where the core saturates the fastest or for the least current. Not sure if there is such a resonance.

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Chris posted this 25 December 2017

@Zanzal - What is the Source of the Magnetic Field?

I mean, at the level we work and create waveforms, What is the Source of the Magnetic Field?

Then, on the flipside, what Invokes the Movement of Charged Particles?

   Chris

 

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Chris posted this 26 December 2017

@Zanzal - You are exactly right when you say Resonance.

Question: Have you read the papers on Floyd Sweet? Particularly the Magnetic Resonance paper?

This was a golden gift this paper. Others also, but this one in particular:

Electrons revolve about the nucleus of an atom and spin around their axis. In addition, the nucleus has a spin of its own. All of these moving charges have associated magnetic fields (magnetic moments), and magnetic resonance is concerned with the interactions of some of the fields with each other, and with at least two external magnetic fields applied to the atom.

We must not forget, Copper has the exact same Protons, Neutrons and Electrons that is spoken about! Also, a completely insulated Copper Conductor yields no Voltage and thus no Current, that is unless the Insulation is broken! 

Floyd Sweet did study other Energy Machines!

We are all familiar with AM and FM propagation, where in the case as AM, the voltage amplitude varies, and with FM, the frequency is modulated.

However, the output power sees a constant load impedance, that of the matched antenna system. If this changes, the input to the antenna is mismatched, and standing waves are generated resulting in a loss of power. The frequency is a forced response and remains constant. Power is lost and efficiency becomes less and less, depending on the degree of mismatch. Let’s assume the Jensen amplifying transformer is in a resonating condition. Its output is connected to a transmission line which is X number of miles long. Without any customer load at all, power will be required to change the line. This will present capacitive reactance,  XC 1/2  fc . The power factor cos angle   will be leading, though negligible on short systems. The effect must be reckoned with on multiple grid long systems operating above 60 KV. What we have is a capacitor and the effects are evident as line impedance. Another parameter is varying power factor due to changing inductive loads. Taken together this forms a complex impedance load continually varying and this is what the “Jensen” machine will “see” when connected to power distributing network grids. Such a resonant machine will never sustain resonance as shown in the sketch. The circuit consists of a capacitor in series with an inductor and this is a series resonant circuit of minimum impedance and maximum current.

Now, I am still a student, and always will be, but Floyd Sweet wrote this paper, studied the Jensen Machine, well before he knew about the operating techniques, I can say this 100% for sure. Why? Because the reflection that Floyd talks about, it does not happen the way that is described! The Input see's pretty much no load, it is left to resonate and is not change by "complex impedance load continually varying". In fact, the opposite is true, as more Load is applied, the more the machine Outputs, to a degree.

   Chris

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Zanzal posted this 26 December 2017

@Zanzal - What is the Source of the Magnetic Field?

I mean, at the level we work and create waveforms, What is the Source of the Magnetic Field?

Then, on the flipside, what Invokes the Movement of Charged Particles?

Thanks for pointing out Floyd Sweet's paper. I'd say your questions relate to the sum of magnetic moments in a given area of space. I want to stick to measuring resonance for now so though I will read the paper and see if it gives me any ideas for measuring magnetic resonance of a given core.

 

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Chris posted this 26 December 2017

@Zanzal - Fair comment!

Charge in Motion gives rise to the Magnetic Field, and Magnetic Field in Motion gives rise to the Charges in Motion.

So, one is the other, its the ol Chicken or the Egg scenario, but a very important aspect to keep in mind when working with this.

That experiment does look like fun!

   Chris

 

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dummyload posted this 26 December 2017

I have also seen broken ferrite yokes used with a slip of paper inserted into the break. What is the purpose of this? How does it affect the characteristics of the ferrite? I think of Tesla"On the Dissipation of Electrical Energy" Where the effect of electrifying the air is relevant.

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Zanzal posted this 26 December 2017

I would guess a slip of paper between parts of a core would be for altering the inductance by introducing a small fixed width gap. You might google up gapped core for more info on that. Speaking of gaps, one experiment I was hoping to run was to use a small piece of rubber between two halves of a pot core gap to see if I could magnetize a core strong enough for the rubber to deform. This could create a change in inductance that might prove interesting for parametric oscillations.

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